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County of Volusia
Children and Families
Advisory Board
Minutes of May 17, 2006 Meeting
County of Volusia – Kelly Administration Building
123 West Indiana Avenue
DeLand, Fl.
386-943-7039
Call to Order 2:00 pm
Attendance
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CFAB
Members Present |
CFAB
Members Absent |
County Staff Present |
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Cook, Kymberly
Denys, Deborah
Evans, Dave
Martin, Dr. Henry
Mirino, Mary Lou
Smith, Essie |
Augustine, Maria, Excused
Bourbonnais, Karen, Excused
Bruno, Mary, Excused |
Jasper, Edward
Johnson, Peggy
Knievel, Mike
Lacey, Walter |
Quorum:
Yes
Chair’s Report:
Dr. Martin introduced Mike Knievel, Interim Community Services Director.
Staff requested Mr. Knievel address the CFAB Board regarding the “white
paper” presented by the CFAB. Although some of the $.50 increase may be
justified by increased cost in utilities, insurance, worker’s
compensation and salaries, the entire $.50 may not be justified. Mr.
Knievel stated that per the OMB utility cost have increased 15%,
insurance costs are up 15%, and workers; compensation up 10%. The second
concern is that some agencies do not charge fees for their services.
Dave Evans stated that the “white paper” stated that “many agencies
cannot charge fees”, not all agencies. In many cases fees for some
services are prohibited by law, i.e. Older Americans Act, which funds a
great deal of Council on Aging specifically states that fees cannot be
charged. Mr. Knievel stated that he believes even the impoverished are
resourceful and that resourcefulness is a matter of economic integrity
and pride. If we can link up to that economic integrity is not only
recognized but utilized in the provision of public services, we are
better served and the clients are better served, as well as the
agencies. Growth and demand as a way of justifying the increase. Growth
and demand is a legitimate justifier for requests. Not all demand gets
translated into full funding. Indexing is another concern for
consideration of increases. An adjusted cost performance index should be
considered. This could grow to 3% and then automatically adjust which is
more advantageous than having to request funds annually.
Dave Evans stated that the Board is requesting guidance so that they are
not out of sync with county staff on Board requests. The Board does not
want to design a new index. The County already uses the Consumer Price
Index for compensation. Mr. Evans stated that if that index is good
enough for county staff it should be good enough for county residents.
The Board is willing to live with an index, but staff needs to define
the index. Mr. Knievel stated that the County Budget Office made its
annual presentation of its financial analysis to the County Council and
County Management and gave the Board an overview.
Mary Lou Mirino asked Mr. Knievel if, in his opinion, Cultural Arts
request for the per capita rate increase would be approved. Mr. Knievel
stated that Council Chair has expressed that there should be consistency
between the CFAB and Cultural Arts. He further stated whether that
justifies the $.50 increase. The $.50 figure was not generated by the
CFAB, but by Cultural Arts. Deborah Denys stated we could ask for $.50,
understanding there is a possibility that we may only get $.30. In
listening to the five year forecast presented by Mr. Knievel, the County
is building the infrastructure stating that “if you build it they will
come”, well, they’re coming and the need for services is increasing. Mr.
Knievel stated that currently the Budget Office has not included the
increase, or anticipated a change in the per capita rate requested by
the Board. Mr. Knievel stated that staff has a meeting with the County
Manager next week to present budget justification. Mr. Knievel was asked
what information he needed from the Board to be able to justify the
increase to the County Manager. Mr. Knievel referred back to the four
items he detailed in his response to the white paper. However, the
decision to recommend the increase to the County Council would come from
the County Manager. Deborah Denys stated that the Board needs to contact
Council members on an individual basis to communicate the need for the
increase. Dave Evans stated that if County staff does not request the
increase it won’t make any difference if Council was contacted because
it would never come before the Council for a vote. Mr. Knievel stated
that all citizens have the right to come before the Council, up to and
including the budget hearings to discuss the budget. Mr. Knievel stated
that the Budget Department was aware of the requested increase, however,
the Budget Office takes their direction from the County Manager. At this
time, no official request has been made to the Budget Office and
officially denied. Mr. Knievel stated that he had the Boards white paper
and the request for the increase in the budget discussions. Deborah
Denys stated that since the request had not been addressed in the budget
process, that the Board should contact Council directly. Ed Jasper
stated that the information missing from the white paper is why there is
a short-fall. One of the reasons is the reduction in contributions to
United Way. If services have to but because of lack of funding, the
clients needing service will come to the County. Agencies are not
reaching their financial goals because the resources are not available.
Ed Jasper stated that he is in support of the per capita rate increase
and believes the Board should proceed continue to pursue the increase.
He further stated that in his meeting with the County Manger next week
he would endorse the request. Deborah Denys stated that she was
disappointed with the fact that the Board requested several times did
the official request go in and the answer was yes or no and the apparent
answer was no. It is disturbing that when an official Board makes a
request to a government entity and is not allowed due process. The Board
feels a commitment to the community serve as volunteers. She feels that
the Board should contact Council members individually. Mr. Jasper was
under the impression that the Board had not submitted an original
request. However, he was advised that the “white paper” was presented
and titled “agenda item request” Kimberly Cook stated that additional
information regarding the need for the increase, the loss of local
funding and the other concerns from Mr. Knievels’ letter. With regard to
the charging of fees, Deborah Denys suggested that the wording be
changed “many agencies” don’t charge fees. Dave Evans suggested that the
wording be changed to” Due to contractual or grant restrictions many
agencies cannot charge fees, and if they did many of their clients could
not pay them”, Ed Jasper stated that even if fees are charged they do
not provide enough income to fill the gap. Mr. Jasper again reiterated
he would discuss the issue with the County Manager next week.
Dave Evans suggested that the Board update the “white paper” and each
Board member contact Council members.
Staff advised Board of status of two programs currently funded through
the CFAB (Youth of Valor ($15,000),and Emergency Services). As a result
of the monitoring we were advised that the Youth of Valor program had
not been in operation this year. The County has paid $3,750 for this
program. Staff is recommending that the contract for the Youth of Valor
program be cancelled and the $3,750 paid be deducted from the Emergency
Services contract. Staff further recommends that the $15,000 initially
allocated to the Youth of Valor program be re-allocated to summer camp
scholarships. There are currently 250 income eligible children on the
waiting list for summer camp scholarships. Staff also advised that due
to unresolved monitoring issues payments to the agency are currently
suspended. Agency Director has been advised of this recommendation.
Motion by Deborah Denys and seconded Dave Evans to accept the proposal
as presented by staff . Motion passed.
Next meeting scheduled for July 18 for budget sub-committee.
Public Participation:
Kevin Para of Women’s Care Center in New Smyrna Beach
Tom Lindzon of Council on Aging of Volusia
Adjourned: 3:45 pm
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