MEMBERS
Bill Scovell (present)
Fritz Behring (present)
Randy Brewer (absent)
Richard Fernandez (absent)
Ken Hoblick (present)
Elizabeth Layton (absent)
Tom McClelland (absent)
Beth McGee (present)
Steven Provost (absent)
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order by Chair Bill Scovell at 6:05
p.m. with the above attendance noted. Also in attendance were Cindy Finney, County
Managers staff, Dan Eckert, County Attorney and Gloria Marwick, County Water and
Utilities Director. Lacking a quorum, the meeting was not official, but Mr. Scovell asked
that it continue unofficially because of the special speaker, John Wehle from the St.
Johns River Water Management District.
GUEST SPEAKER: ST JOHNS RIVER
WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT ASSISTANT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR JOHN WEHLE
Mr. Wehle introduced himself to the group and gave a brief description of his
background. The SJRWMD encourages a regional approach to water supply for most of the area
under its jurisdiction. Volusia County has done an excellent job of this, he said. The
Volusian Water Alliance now has a draft plan finished; once it is adopted, the group will
proceed with an institutional study to bring about recommendations on what institutional
arrangements could best handle Volusias water supply situation.
The SJRWMD has embarked on many cooperative ventures,
including two pilot projects. One is the rehydration of land and wellfields. The state
Department of Environmental Protection has not viewed this favorably, but the SJRWMD is in
the process of educating the DEP about how rehydration can be better for the environment
and provide water supplies for the future. The DEP is concerned rehydration will lock the
state into artificially maintaining wetlands. The SJRWMD believes rehydration will work
because as the state continues to grow, the effort to rehydrate an area around a water
supply is small compared to the much greater impact caused by development.
The SJRWMD also is looking at RAMP the Regional
Aquifer Management Plan. Seven of the areas utilities have interconnected via
pipeline so they can share water resources in times of need. This increases the efficiency
of these systems and allows more water to be taken with less environmental impact. The
SJRWMD also is looking at the natural springs in the state. Blue Spring is the first to be
examined. Mr. Wehle said the existing use of Blue Spring is not a problem. In the future,
RAMP and rehydration could be used to derive water.
Other issues are desalination. The SJRWMD is looking at the
best places on the coast to provide this. It is essential to locate near existing or
future power plants because heated water makes desalination easier, he said.
Along with the potential use of the St. Johns River, the
County has a variety of water resource solutions and opportunities to pursue. However, the
cost may be higher in the future. Mr. Wehle added.
Mr. Wehle said the SJRWMD has not gotten RAMP under way.
Because it is a regional water supply solution, RAMP would be good candidate for
Florida Forever funds, but state statute limits the use of these funds. The SJRWMD is
discussing with the DEP the possibility of using these funds. The District may need to go
back to the state Legislature to address changing the statute to accommodate this use.
Mr. Scovell asked if the District has determined how water
will be supplied for the 90,000 plus undeveloped parcels in Volusia and Flagler counties
when they become developed.
Mr. Wehle said the District has not looked at that issue.
To do so would require a look at all undeveloped parcels in the state. The District would
need to make the assumption that all these parcels would be developed and determine right
now what would needs to be done.
Mr. Scovell asked about the cost of alternative water
sources. Mr. Wehle said the cost of developing raw water is 50 cents to $1.50 per 1,000
gallons, depending on the water system. He estimated that the cost of increasing
efficiencies would be 50 cents more. To develop surface water systems, it could be $2 more
for a total of about $3.50 per 1,000 gallons for a new system. The impact on the consumers
throughout the state varies depending on whether the system is contributing profits to,
for example, the general funds. For example, in St. Johns County, it costs $1.70 per 1,000
gallons to get the water to residents, but consumers pay $9 per 1,000 gallons because the
profits are being used. $3.50 per 1,000 gallons still is cheap, but it is not what Volusia
residents are accustomed to paying. A discussion ensued on water rates.
Member Fritz Behring said it appears the District is on
track to build a surface water plant on the St. Johns River. Is the district attempting to
force construction of the plant by reducing the CUPs for the westside by allowing the
eastside to draw more water from the ground?
Mr. Wehle said there is a fear that the District will force
the issue by artificially cutting back on wellfieds, but that is not true. The
Districts job is to come up with alternatives and the surface water plant is an
alternative. The coastal communities might want to assist West Volusia by investing in a
surface water system so that West Volusia does not use the groundwater, freeing it up for
east Volusia.
Mr. Behring asked what the District thinks is the best
alternative water source. Mr. Wehle replied the District is not predisposed to any one
alternative but believes the best now is RAMP. The second would be other available
groundwater.
Mr. Scovell asked about the potential of water becoming a
commodity similar to the way it is in the western United States with water rights bought
and sold. Mr. Wehle responded that the proposal had come up before and had been dismissed;
he did not believe it was currently viable.
Member Beth McGee noted the pressure Volusia County faces
from adjacent counties for water supplies. Mr. Wehle said the majority of the state has
good water supplies but it depends on the demands placed on them. Central Florida counties
are looking at a variety of alternatives, including reuse, desalination and surface water
partnerships. The District watches state growth patterns carefully, he said.
Ms. McGee asked about the relationship between the SJRWMD and the DEP. Mr. Wehle said
state statute gives the DEP general supervisory authority over the water management
districts. The DEP can adopt state water policy and the Districts actions must be
consistent with this water policy. In addition, the DEP delegates some of its authority to
the District. The Governor appoints the secretary of the DEP and the Governor appoints the
nine-member District Governing Board. He noted if the Governor appoints you, chances are
good you agree with the Governors policies.
ADJOURN/SET NEXT MEETING DATE
There being no further business, the Commission adjourned. The
next meeting of the Commission will be at 6 p.m., Thursday, Oct. 11, in the Training
Rooms, Thomas C. Kelly Administration Center, DeLand.
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