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ECHO Advisory Committee

MINUTES
Volusia ECHO Advisory Board Meeting

May 28, 2003
County Council Chambers
DeLand, FL

Members Present
Charles Matousek, Chair
Linda Hargreaves, Vice Chair
Gary Libby
Teri Ford Cobean
Lorna Jean Hagstrom
Don Smith
Jack Wiles
Judson I. Woods
Staff Present
Margaret Hodge, ECHO Program Manager
Ruby Barnett, ECHO Program Assistant

Absent Members

Janet Williams

Visitors (signed in)

Julie Rand, Lively Arts Center
Michael Brothers, Museum of Arts & Sciences
Christopher Bell, Marine Discovery Center
Holli Vanater, Gillespie Museum
Brent Moore, Central Florida Sports Commission
Robert McCray, PTF 3 Restoration Boy Scout Troop 544 PT Boat

I. Call To Order, Introductory Remarks, Roll Call

Chair Matousek called the May 28, 2003, ECHO Advisory Committee meeting to order at 3:03 PM, welcomed the advisory committee members and the public and asked staff to take Roll Call of members. Mr. Matousek, reminded the committee members of the importance of their being in attendance at all of the ECHO Advisory Board meetings.

II. Approval of May 14, 2003, Minutes:

Chair Matousek directed the meeting to the approval of the May 14, 2003, minutes and asked if there were any additions or corrections. Mr. Libby made a Motion to approve the minutes May 14, 2003, Mr. Wiles seconded the Motion. Mr. Matousek stated that he had a change on page two of the minutes, changing the date from June 12, 2002 to May 14, 2003. The May 14, 2003 minutes were unanimously approved with the change.

Mr. Libby stated that he would like to revisit the motion that was made at the May 14, 2003 meeting regarding the super majority issue.

Mr. Gummey stated that in order to reconsider a motion, it must be brought to the floor by a member of the winning party at the meeting directly following the meeting of action.

III. Staff Report:

Staff Report - Mrs. Hodge stated that the 2002-2003 Grant awardees have all of their quarterly reports in and are on target.

Mr. Matousek asked if in general projects are being started.

Ms. Hodge stated that the awardees from 2002 are started and that the African American Museum and the Lighthouse Lens Project are almost complete and the Museum of Arts & Sciences will be starting construction shortly.

IV. Old Business:

Mr. Matousek stated that he would entertain a motion to revisit the motion regarding the exceptional project status that was voted on last week.

Mr. Libby made a motion, to reconsider the motion, as written in the last bold paragraph on page 6 of the minutes. Mr. Woods seconded the motion.

Mr. Libby stated that he voted for the original motion so that he could revisit it when more of the board members were present. Board members discussed the different options that were in the original motion. Mr. Smith stated that his original intent with his amendment to the motion was that he felt that 1 million is too large an amount in proportion to the funds available. Ms. Hargreaves stated that she felt the board needed to have some vision, there may be a project out there that is deserving of 1 million per year for three years, but there will need to be some caveats put on that large of an award.

Roll call vote – Mr. Libby – yes, Mr. Smith – no, Ms. Hagstrom – no, Mr. Wiles – no, Mr. Woods – no, Ms. Cobean – no, Ms. Hargreaves – yes, Mr. Matousek – yes. Motion failed 5-3.

V. New Business:

Ms. Hodge asked the committee members to get out the short questionnaire from their packets. Ms. Hodge stated that the questions were fuzzy policy issues that staff has and would like the board to clear up.

Ms. Hagstrom stated that she had a change to the Guide on page 7 "encouraged" should be changed to "required".

Ms. Hagstrom asked why they were reviewing applicants that don’t fall under the "clean hands" policy. The board members stated that they would like to stick to the clean hands policy, and not review any applicants that don’t meet that criteria.

Mr. Matousek stated that he would meet with Ms. Hodge to discuss this issue and take it to Council.

PAGE 5, APP GUIDE / Partial funding policy

Staff Question: Does the board want to officially enter a policy on what happens to funds that are remaining for 2004: partially fund? Does a partially funded grantee have to come up with balance of the funds for the project if they are not fully funded or may the grantee revise their budget (The State Cultural Facilities Grant allows a revised budget)? Do funds continue to roll to next applicant with a score above 70 no matter how many applicants you may roll through to find one who can come up with additional funds to complete the project as scored?

Ms. Hagstrom made a motion stating that if partial award is given, allow applicant to revisit scope and budget to fit award. Mr. Libby seconded the motion. Motion carried.

PAGE 7, APP GUIDE / Funding Policy / Exceptional grant loan

Staff question: Does it benefit the program to allow an Exceptional applicant more time to encumber rather than spend match/echo each year? Budgeting ECHO expenditures at the end of the project allows the funds to generate more interest and less money would need to be borrowed. The Exceptional could still be held to an annual construction schedule.

Consensus of Board Members – Moot point – No change

PAGE 8, APP GUIDE / Post project completion reports

Staff consider version for smaller organizations or grant amounts

  1. Submission of an Annual Financial Audit by an Independent CPA and an annual project report for three years following the end of the grant fund period that shall include a narrative explaining how the project has met the measurable goals identified in the application (Tabs 2, 4 and 5) in a format and in a time-frame directed by the Department Staff question:

Mr. Libby made a motion to take item 5 from page 8 and apply the criteria item 3 of page 34. Mr. Wiles seconded.

Discussion: The general consensus was that requiring an Annual Financial Audit in addition to an annual project report was excessive.

Roll Call – Mr. Libby – yes, Mr. Smith – yes, Ms. Hagstrom – no, Mr. Wiles – yes, Mr. Woods – yes, Ms. Cobean – yes, Ms. Hargreaves – no, Mr. Matousek – no.

Motion passed.

Mr. Libby made a motion to separate Item 5 on page 8 into two separate sentences.

Submission of an annual financial audit by an independent CPA.

Submission of an Annual project report for up to three (3) years following the end of the grant period that shall include a narrative explaining how the project has met the measurable goals identified in the application tabs 2 – 4 –5 and in a format and timeframe directed by the department staff

Ms. Cobean seconded the motion

Mr. Libby amended the motion to include: "grant fund period" at the end of the first sentence.

Ms. Cobean seconded the amended motion.

Motion carried

PAGE 15, APP GUIDE / Funding Amounts /Exceptional funding

Staff question: When may an exceptional grant award winner reapply for more ECHO funds? If they are awarded a grant in year #1 and then apply for an Exceptional grant in the next four years, is the first grant deducted from the Exceptional amount they can request? (i.e. Year one they receive $500,000 so in year two they can only request an Exceptional of 2.5 over three years?

Mr. Matousek asked that the following wording be added: stating that in the exceptional category all previous awards will be deducted from the maximum annual amount allowable in the 5 year period as determined by the County Council.

PAGE 23, APP GUIDE/ MAI appraisal vs. Property Appraiser document

When the project is located on part of an assessed tract of land and the grant request is at least $50,000, the value of the project site must be demonstrated by an appraisal by a certified Member of the Institute of Appraisers. If the grant request is less than $50,000 the applicant may use the current appraisal from the Volusia County Property Appraiser.

When the project is utilizing 100% of the parcel the value of the project site may be demonstrated by the current appraisal from the County of Volusia Property Appraiser.

Acquisition Projects requesting funding by ECHO must have an MAI appraisal. If the grant amount is less than the actual purchase price the balance may be used as match and any portion of the proposed improvement may be used as match. (i.e. Land costs $600,000; Grant request is $500,000; Match is $100,000 unencumbered cash for balance of land purchase, $150,000. unencumbered cash for improvements and $250,000 in-kind services for improvements.)

Staff question: Does the board want acquisition projects to be only acquisition and not include improvements to the property when the grant and match must be encumbered within 12 months of award? Would the board consider a longer term of encumbrance for these type projects?

Mr. Wiles pointed out that there was a contradiction on page 23 number 6 in the application regarding the MAI appraisal.

Mr. Libby stated that acquisitions should not have to include improvements to the property.

The board was in agreement to these suggestions.

PAGE 29, APP GUIDE/ Match/ Unencumbered cash

Staff recommendation for consideration: That the Board consider allow expenditures within the 12 month period prior to the application deadline be used for unencumbered cash.

Mr. Libby made a motion to ECHO allowable verifiable cash expenditures within the 12-month period prior to the application deadline to be used for unencumbered cash.

Mr. Smith seconded.

Motion carried.

PAGE 34, APP GUIDE/ Audit vs. review

Staff question: May the expense of or portion of the expense of an audit or a review be used for match? Cash match?

Staff recommendation for consideration: Please see versions in the Application Guide. Staff is now recommending version number two page 34.

Staff question: Month End Financial Statements are not always available from all organizations. Small groups may not generate them and new groups may complete them quarterly. Would a month end bank statement be appropriate?

Staff question: Should an applicant receive a reduced score if they demonstrate poor financial practices?

Consensus - add "all organizations will submit management letter".

Ms. Hodge asked the board if the expense of an audit could be used for match.

The consensus was that the cost of an audit could be used for match, not cash match.

Add another section including the requirement of the month end financial statement or quarterly end financial.

Staff stated that a percentage left in the bank for reimbursement should be talked about.

Mr. Libby made a motion to re-visit the section of the grant regarding unencumbered cash.

Mr. Smith seconded the motion.

Motion carried.

Mr. Libby made a motion stating that the board allow 50% of appropriate allowable cash expenditures within the previous 12-month period prior to the application to be used for unencumbered cash match.

Mr. Wiles seconded the motion.

Motion carried.

PAGE 9, APP GUIDE / Application Definitions / project definitions

A couple of projects seem to be moving toward ECHO applications that are a bit unusual. Staff would like some direction on these projects in order to best assist the applicant should they come forward in 2004.

Staff question: Would the Board consider the restoration of a historical boat permanently placed in a public location an eligible project? Would the board fund the construction of a structure that housed historical data and veterans remains a project?

The consensus of the board was that they should apply.

  • Application Content
    Take question mark at end of 2008 on page 9
    Page 6 – change year to 2004
    Less duplication between guide and application

  • Application Guide Content

  • Public Workshop Format

Mr. Matousek stated that the rest of the Application and Guide would be discussed at the next meeting.

VI. Public Participation:

Chair Matousek opened the floor for public participation. There was no additional public participation.

VII. Meeting Dates:

June 11, 2003
June 25, 2003 Workshop

Mr. Smith stated that he would not be in attendance at the 7/23 meeting.

Mr. Wiles stated that he would not be in attendance at the 6/25 meeting.

VIII. Adjournment: 4:55 PM

Chair Matousek asked if there were any additional comments from anyone else or from members of the Committee. There was none. The Chair adjourned the meeting.

 

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