MINUTES
Volusia ECHO Advisory Board Meeting
September 11, 2002
County Council Chambers
DeLand, FL

Members Present
Gary Libby, Chair
Janet Williams
Marc Davidson
Lorna Jean Hagstrom
Jack Wiles
Staff Present
Margaret Hodge, ECHO Program Manager
Ruby Barnett, ECHO Program Assistant

Absent members
Teri Ford Cobean
Linda Hargreaves
Charles Matousek
Roy Schleicher

Visitors (signed in)
Kelly Ferguson, Lively Arts Center 
Margaret E. Lee, Cultural Arts Center
Lynne Plaskett, City of Edgewater 
Don Bostrom, Ormond Beach Historical Trust
Maxwell Johnson, African American Museum 
Mary Virginia, Museum of Arts & Sciences
Sandra Wilson, DeBary Art League

Call To Order, Introductory Remarks, Roll Call:

Chair Libby called the September 11, 2002, Volusia ECHO Advisory Committee meeting to order at 3:10 PM, welcomed the public and asked staff to take Roll Call of members.

Approval of August 28, 2002, Minutes:

Chair Libby directed the meeting to the approval of the August 28, 2002, minutes and asked if there were any additions or corrections. Ms. Williams made a Motion to amend page 3 of the minutes ( page 20 of the GY 2003 ECHO Application) to include a statement, wording to be determined by staff, stating that contingency and contractor fees may not be included in any other division’s budget items. Ms. Hagstrom seconded the Motion. Chair Libby ask for a Motion to approve the minutes, as amended. The August 28, 2002, minutes were unanimously approved, as amended.

Staff Report:

GY 2002 Project Update: Ms. Hodge stated that there were no additional updates to the GY 2002 projects, other than that the Museum of Arts and Sciences had its ECHO sign installed.

County Council September 5, 2002, Agenda Item: Ms. Hodge stated that the County Council had agreed to direct the ECHO Board to include some criteria for Exceptional and Unique Small grant projects with basic guideline recommendations of no more than $3 Million over a 3-year period ($1 Million annually for 3 years) for a maximum grant amount.

Chair Libby stated that unbeknownst to the ECHO Advisory Committee, County staff submitted to the County Council a draft criteria that might be used to establish a mini and maxi grant program. Most, but not all the items in the draft that was reviewed by the County Council, came from the ECHO Advisory Board (discussions during previous meetings). Chair Libby stated that he was a little perplexed at the technique that the County staff used by going directly to the County Council with the draft criteria instead of bringing it (first) to the ECHO Advisory Committee. But, in retrospect, that he understood technically, that it was to everyone’s advantage that it happened that way. In effect, the County Council has asked the board to come up with guidelines for the mini and maxi grant programs. For clarification purposes, Chair Libby stated that he would refer to the mini grant program as grant funding under $50,000 and the maxi grant program as grant funding over $500,000 per year. He stated that the County Council had changed their minds on a 5-2 vote for the ECHO Advisory Committee to revisit and offer mini grants, under $50,000, and maxi grants, over $500,000. The only caveat that the County Council requested from the board was that it did not give maxi grants in excess of $1 Million a year for no more than three years. So the maxi grant would be capped out at "up to and not to exceed $3 Million over a 3-year period." Ms. Hagstrom questioned whether it would be 3 years out of 5 years. Chair Libby replied, "no, that it was 3 consecutive years." He stated that the board was to establish the rest of the criteria for the GY 2003 ECHO application.

Chair Libby stated that the super and mini grant criteria that was submitted to the County Council, by Montye Beamer and Margaret Hodge, could be used as a jumping off place by the board to enable them to get going on the criteria for the mini and maxi grant program for GY 2003..

After much discussion, Chair Libby called for a Motion to strike the "Unique Small Project (mini) grant language and the 7 of 9 absolute ¾ majority votes of the ECHO Advisory Committee from the criteria list and in-fold the Unique Small Project program into the regular GY 2003 ECHO Application information. Chair Libby stated that this in essence dropped the cash minimum requirements for a project to $25,000 with $12, 500 match. Ms. Hagstrom made a Motion to lower the minimum grant amount (page 14, Funding Amounts/Caps and Restrictions of the GY 2003 ECHO Application) that may be requested to $12,500 per project, per year. Mr. Davidson seconded the Motion.

The Motion passed unanimously.

IV. Old Business:

Exceptional & Unique Small Grant Criteria/Procedures - Chair Libby directed the board to the following document that was submitted to the County Council on September 5, 2002, by County staff. September 11, 2002, ECHO Advisory Committee meeting comments are included.

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SUPER AND MINI GRANT PROJECT PROGRAM (staff proposal)

The following paragraphs are the existing language in the 2002 application.

GRANT FUNDING REQUEST CATEGORIES (2002 application, page 10)

EXCEPTIONAL PROJECT means a project of paramount and crucial county-wide importance and which provides for receipt of services by significantly large numbers of people in all areas of the County as demonstrated and determined by absolute ¾ majority votes of the ECHO Committee (7 of 9) and the County Council (6 of 7).

Sept. 11 – Chair Libby asked for a Motion to strike the word " Exceptional" and replace it with the word "Super" Project. Ms. Hagstrom made the Motion. Mr. Davidson seconded. Motion failed (4 to 1 – Chair Libby voted no). Mr. Davidson moved to leave the word "Exceptional." Ms. Hagstrom seconded. The Motion passed unanimously.

PROJECT means the acquisition, construction, renovation and/or improvement of buildings and appurtenances, site improvements (such as driveways, parking facilities, storm-water management facilities, landscaping, signage and pedestrian facilities) and mandated off-site improvements that meet the requirements of an eligible ECHO project for the use and benefit of the general public. This definition specifically excludes furniture, fixtures, and equipment.

Sept. 11 - After much discussion, the board agreed to add after the word "equipment" in the definition of PROJECT (above) – as defined in the grant application.

UNIQUE SMALL PROJECT means a project requiring matching funds less than $25,000 that has a narrowly focused public purpose and which provides for a receipt of services by a distinct unserved or under-served segment of the public as demonstrated and determined by an absolute ¾ majority of the Committee (7 of 9) and the County Council (6 of 7).

Sept. 11The board voted to strike the language for Unique Small Project from the draft criteria.

GRANT FUNDING AMOUNTS (2002 application, page 15)

The maximum grant amount that may be requested is $500,000 annually per project. The grant minimum amount that may be requested is $25,000 per project per year. After this grant cycle (2003) the Committee with County Council approval may provide for Exceptional Projects and Unique Small Project categories. Should this occur, applicants would be able to apply for more than the maximum amount of funds for an "Exceptional Project" or may apply for less than the minimum funding amount for a "Unique Small Project". (See definitions, page ___ for details on an Exceptional or Unique Small Project.) Applicants requesting Exceptional or Unique Small status in future grant cycles will be asked to complete additional application information if these grant categories are made available.

Sept. 11 – Chair Libby, with board consensus, directed staff to amend this paragraph to reflect the new language for small projects (new minimum grant request amounts) and the new project high for the exceptional project.

FUNDING CAPS (2002 application, page 15)

No project, regardless of single-phase or multiphase status may receive more than $1.5 million during five (5) consecutive ECHO grant funding years in length. The 5-year cycle begins with the first year the project receives funding. "Receive" means (month/day) of the fiscal year the grant funds were awarded by the County Council. No project may receive more than $6 million dollars over the twenty year lifetime of the ECHO grant program unless recommended for an "Exceptional Project" funding amount by the ECHO Committee and awarded additional ECHO grant funding by the County Council if this category is made available and defined as to allow for more than $6 million over the twenty year lifetime of the ECHO program.

Sept. 11 - Ms. Hodge stated that language needed to be added to the grant application explaining that a large project can only get one exceptional grant and would not be eligible for any additional ECHO grant funds under the exceptional grant program ($3 Million over 3 consecutive years with a 2-year gap). On the 6th year the applicant would be eligible to apply in the regular 5-year grant cycle. Chair Libby stated that the perimeters for an exceptional program needed to be established adding the $3 Million over 3 consecutive years, (with a 2-year gap). His understanding of the direction given by the County Council was that an applicant would be entitled to one super (exceptional) grant during the life of the bond issue, and would be eligible to apply, after a two year gap, in the regular 5-year grant cycle under the terms already in place.

Chair Libby asked for a Motion that would set the initial guidelines for an exceptional project in that an eligible applicant could ask for $3 Million over 3 consecutive years with a 2-year gap after the 3rd year. The applicant could then move into the regular 5-year grant cycle on the 6th year. Ms. Hagstrom made the Motion. Mr. Wiles seconded the Motion. The Motion passed unanimously.

RESTRICTIONS (2002 application, page 15)

No more than one application for the same facility complex, facility, project, site or phase will be accepted per year regardless of the number of applicant organizations.

II. Proposed Eligibility Requirements if Super and Mini grants are approved

Super Grant Applications must:

Show the project meets the existing definition of an Exceptional grant.

Provide a minimum 5:1 match (with 50% of match as unencumbered cash)

Demonstrate full match at the time of application and provide all required unencumbered cash match at the time of the Grant Panel Review.

Must provide Public Access to the project at the completion of the project and shall not be later than three years from the date the grant is awarded by the County Council

Sept. 11: - Heading - Replace the word "Super" with "Exceptional, remove Mini grants -

replace, in line 1, the word "grant" with the word "project." Chair Libby stated that staff and Mr. Gummey would have the responsibility of deciding whether or not to declare a project as an "exceptional project."

Line #2 - 5:1 Match – Chair Libby stated with the 5:1 Match Rule, an applicant that requested $3 Million would have to have $15 Million Match, with no less than $7.5 Million of unencumbered cash on hand at the time of the application. The question he posed to the board was "if the bar was too high or too low?" He then opened the floor for discussion. Mr. Davidson stated that he agreed with Ms. Hargreaves (information emailed for meeting) that the bar was too high. Mr. Wiles asked for clarification on the 5:1 Match. Ms. Hodge stated that an "exceptional grant" was a one time total grant award and would be for a full $3 Million dispersed over 3 consecutive years and the applicant must have the full match of $15 Million with $7.5 Million of unencumbered cash on hand. Chair Libby stated that this was to ensure that the applicant was ready for an "exceptional project."

Chair Libby asked for a Motion on whether or not to confirm or reduce the "exceptional grant match minimum of 5:1." Mr. Davidson made a Motion to reduce the 5:1 Match to a 4:1 Match. Ms. Hagstrom seconded the Motion. There was no additional discussion. Chair Libby asked for everyone in favor to say "aye." Ms. Hodge questioned whether or not everyone voted on the Motion. Mr. Wiles and Ms. Williams had failed to voice their vote. Chair Libby asked for a Roll Call Vote. The Motion passed unanimously.

Mini Grants must:

Show the project meets the existing definition of the Unique Small grant .

Provide a minimum 1:1 match (with 50% of the match as unencumbered cash)

Sept. 11 - Page 2 – Mini Grants – 3 lines of verbiage at the top of the page to be deleted.

Chair Libby asked for a Motion to approve Roman Numeral II , as amended. Ms. Hagstrom made the Motion. Mr. Davidson seconded the Motion. The Motion passed unanimously

III. Proposed Funding Caps:

Super Grants:

Up to $1 million dollars per year for three consecutive years.

Annually the ECHO Board will recommend to the County Council if Super Grants applications should be accepted based on availability of ECHO funds and evaluation of the ECHO program goals.

Mini Grants:

Up to $24,999 for 365 days from the date the grant is awarded by the County Council.

Annually the ECHO Board will recommend to the County Council if Mini Grants applications should be accepted based on availability of ECHO funds and evaluation of the ECHO program goals.

Sept. 11 - After much discussion, the board agreed to change the word "super" to the word "exceptional" and delete the verbiage "Mini Grants."

Chair Libby asked for a Motion to approve Roman Numeral III, as amended. Mr. Davidson made the Motion and Mr. Wiles seconded. Chair Libby opened the floor for discussion. Ms. Williams asked if an applicant had received previous funding could they come in as an exceptional project? Chair Libby stated that the current rule would allow organizations that had already received a grant, the ability to apply for an exceptional grant. He stated that Mr. Gummey had expressed concern that the board not exclude applicants based on prior success, that but the board needed to weigh the merit of the grant itself (project) against the perimeters of the program, and not block access. He stated that over time, if funds were being distributed weird geographically or by discipline then the board could do some adjusting to tweak the program, but wanted to keep it as accessible as possible.

Ms. Hodge stated, "the question (asked by Ms. Williams) was a good one," and that the applicant could go and not get an exceptional project, but could get a project funded for up to $1.5 Million over 3 years and then on the 4th year, could come into the 5-year grant program, asking for an exceptional project. Ms. Williams stated another issue the board needed to keep in mind was that the exceptional projects were dedicated projects ($1 Million/annually for 3 consecutive years), and wanted the board to be cautious about dedicating all of the grants-in-aid funds to exceptional projects. Chair Libby stated that the exceptional project category would be reviewed on an annual basis to avoid this from happening. Chair Libby called for a question on the Motion. The Motion passed unanimously.

IV. Proposed procedure for Super and Mini Projects if approved

All applicants have the same application deadline.

ECHO Program Coordinator reviews applications for completeness and eligibility.

ECHO Board approves eligibility list and accepts eligible applications.

ECHO Board convenes as the Grant Review Panel:

The Grant Review Panel begins the meeting by conducting a vote on each Super and Mini grant application to determine if the project meets the eligibility requirements for such projects as stated in the application.

The Grant Review Panel then ranks all applications including those approved as Super and Mini.

If the Super grant application ranks in the top two then it remains Super with additional funding. The Board determines the final funding amount and grant period prior to scoring.

If the Super fails to rank in the top two, its funding request amount automatically returns to the maximum grant amount of $500,000 for one grant year.

The Mini project is not required to rank in the top two in order to maintain Mini status.

The County Council has final approval of all grant awards and funding amounts. If the County Council does not approve the Super funding amount, the excess funds over $500,000 would automatically be offered to the next highest scoring applicant(s) in a future County Council agenda item or if no such applicant is available, the excess funds would roll over to the next grant cycle.

Sept. 11 – Heading should read – Proposed procedure for Exceptional Projects if approved. The word "super" was replaced with "exceptional" and the mini grant language was stricken from the paragraph.

4) line 3 - with a general consensus from the board, the sentence – the Board determines the final funding amount and grant period prior to scoring, was deleted - line 4 , after the word two, the board instructed staff to add "and if the applicant continues in the grant program the match will be reduced to 1:1 - line 5 , the sentence regarding a mini project was stricken - line 6, the board directed staff to place a period after the word "applicant(s), delete, "in a future County Council agenda item, begin a new sentence with the word "If."

Chair Libby called for a Motion to accept Roman Numeral IV, as amended. Ms. Hagstrom made the Motion. Mr.

Davidson seconded the Motion. The Motion was unanimously approved.

V. Proposed Changes in the Application to include Super and Mini projects:

Include Super and Mini projects on the Application Form, section number 7 and add eligibility language in the Tab 1 section of the application manual. Include language on the Application Form where the applicant signifies they agree or disagree to having their ECHO grant request amount reduced to the maximum amount allowed if their project does not receive Super status from both the ECHO Board and the County Council.

Allow an additional page for Tabs 2 and 5 for all applicants. The applicants would include information as needed in any section of Tab 2, but no more than a total one page additional narrative is allowed for Tab 2. The Super applicant must show two time-lines in Tab 2 based on receiving the Super status or not. Tab 3 is not limited to a certain number of pages. A Super project must include a two-part budget detail in Tab 3. The first part would include the match and ECHO expenditures for a $500,000 ECHO grant and the second part would include ECHO funds and match for the amount requested beyond the $500,000. A Super Project must demonstrate all match requirements at the time of the application, no matter what the length of the ECHO grant reimbursement period.

Sept. 11 – Heading to read – "Proposed Changes in the Application to include "Exceptional" projects –

Sub-Section 2 – Ms. Williams stated that she thought the pages for an exceptional project should be inserted as its own tab, possibly Tab 9. Ms. Hodge stated many applicants during the GY 2002 cycle, complained that Tab 2 didn’t allow enough space for them to argue for their project and expressed concern that the application should be fair to all applicants and didn’t think the exceptional project category needed to be given a "Special Tab." She emphasized that the board could judge all the applicants at one time and that the exceptional project shouldn’t get additional pages (to argue for their project). The application should be inclusive and have a fairness level for everyone. This would allow the smaller projects to come forward with additional space to argue for their projects, against the larger projects. The fairness level was created so all applicants would have the same opportunity to apply for an ECHO grant.

After much discussion, Chair Libby asked for a Motion to accept Roman Numeral V, as amended. Ms. Hagstrom made the Motion. Ms. Williams seconded the Motion. The Motion was approved unanimously.

Chair Libby asked for public participation regarding the changes that the board had recommended. There was none.

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Chair Libby called for a Motion to move the GY 2003 Draft ECHO Grants-In-Aid Application, as amended, to the County Council for final approval. Ms. Hagstrom made the Motion. Mr. Davidson seconded the Motion. There was no additional discussion. The Motion passed unanimously.

Ms. Hodge asked the board for clarification on whether or not they wanted to see the updates to the ECHO GY 2003 application before it went to the County Council for final approval, or did they want her to make the changes and send it directly to the County Council. Mr. Davidson stated that the updated grant application could be emailed to the board for comments. Chair Libby stated that he would meet with Ms. Hodge for a final review of the GY 2003 application before it went to the County Council on October 3, 2002.

Chair Libby asked Ms. Hodge to ensure that if board members wanted to attend the workshops, they could without causing a conflict with the Sunshine Law. Ms. Williams stated that if a board member attended one workshop, then they must attend both. Ms. Hagstrom questioned why a board member would want to attend the workshops. She stated that this was a workshop facilitated by staff and she saw no need for the board to be present.

V. New Business:

Tours of existing projects – Ms. Hodge stated that she would be setting up tours of the existing projects later in the fall. Ms. Hodge asked the board if the current tour policy would apply during GY 2003. After much discussion, the board agreed to keep GY 2002’s tour policy of board members not visiting the new grant project sites in an official capacity.

VI. Public Participation: Chair Libby opened the floor to public participation.

Lynne Plaskett, City of Edgewater, requested that the mandatory workshop dates be moved up (extended) a month. She stated that the timeframe seemed to be getting tighter and tighter and that the total application calendar should move commensurate with the calendar. Chair Libby assured her that the board and staff were currently doing the very best they could, and asked her to please be patient with them (staff note: the only change to the GY 2003 Applicant Review Calendar was the September 18, 2002, mandatory workshop date was canceled and rescheduled for October 9, 2002.

Mary Virginia, Museum of Arts and Sciences, asked the board to consider not attending the mandatory workshops, even though they have the right to, because the intimidation factor could keep the applicant from getting clarification on the application. "They won’t ask the questions if they know that someone that is going to grade the application is going to be there." She emphasized that it would be a hindrance to the applicants.

VII. Meeting Dates:

September 25, 2002 – canceled
October 9, 2002 – tentative date
October 23, 2002 – tentative date

Ms. Hodge stated that she would keep the board apprised on whether or not there would be meetings in November and December.

VIII. Adjournment: 4:53 PM

Chair Libby asked if there was anything else from members of the Committee. There was none. The Chair asked for a Motion to adjourn. Mr. Davidson Moved for Adjournment. There was no second. The Motion was approved unanimously.

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