My  last comment, Donna , I had asked if it was possible for folks, to remove  and resettle from that  area. Is there anyway we can help the  family out of that? Because you had one family that  had a two-year-old.  

They have a  two-year-old son. And the father  is a veteran. And we will  follow up if there is more that  we can do to help the father. And  the two of them live with his mother. We kind of had to push, for a list. The first section that  I emailed, for the little boy, he  wanted a big boy bed. And because  the father is a veteran, I went to organizations to see  if they could get a big boy bed. Then he also wanted toys and clothes. They wanted things for their kitchen  like a microwave and silverware.  And a food processor. >> There are two toddlers. >> Is it a violation of law if  we do a email string on a family  like this?  

No.  This is not a matter that would  come before you for an action.  

So if we choose to participate, 
     we will do this through Donna? >> 
     Please respond to me individually. I and I will respond by saying  something like a we still need this.  

I was going to ask this morning  and -- you know you do not  want to start something that someone  else is already doing.  

I think we can find out that's  make --  I think we can find out what things [Indiscernible ] . 

 Are they in a place?  

Yes. 

Do they have a way to  eat and cook?  

How  about at the next meeting on the  18th?  >> Please let me know what you were  doing before? -- Because I will  try to find if we have everything  ready to go. 
     And if you want to bring in toys  that would be great. If you  want to wrap them are not wrap them  it would be great either way.  

I think we  can have it delivered.  >> If you want to give it  to me, I can run it up or vice versa.  

I was saying in two weeks  they will be here again.  

So let me know. >> I thought it was pretty sweet and  sad at the same time. >> That is all I have Mr. Chair.  >> So Mr. Chair, I  do have one thing on my notes that  I forgot. And it is very important. The next Council  meeting I am assuming, we  will be discussing the county managers evaluation and moving forward --  correct?  >> We are going to be meeting with  the county attorney.  

Right. So my suggestion is that in the two years  that I have been here, I have not  been provided with any written evaluation. Is there a way to make a comment  or two? Because talking to other county managers, they were expressing  themselves, -- to their county. They wanted to have their goals. Either set or to show they have accomplished things.  But I think a written -- I do not think it would be  unusual to start using a written  evaluation. For the County manager. And possibly  even our staff. >> We cannot really do that. 

Perhaps not  written evaluation  but to provide input.  >> The only way to provide input is  to send it to me. And we will take  that under advisement. But we could not have  a directive. You guys can talk to me about your  needs. And we can take care of that.  But yes, with that part I just wanted to  make it clear. Because  written evaluations and generally  Dash -- we found , that  we had one that we thought was worthwhile.  

 I thought we could come back with  some kind of rewritten -- [Indiscernible  -- multiple speakers]  >> We have not had one since I  have been here. And I have been here eight years . 

If  you want to do something, I am open.  

 I would ask, as the  HR director that we my -- have a written annual evaluation would be helpful.  With your duties. And your role. 

 Mr. Chair? 

We  just finished this with the executive  director. But I  have to tell you every member  said okay fill it out. And you submitted. But I am  not in favor of it.  I am comfortable with where we are  right now. I see no difference. And it is part of the  public record. And those that want  to will find it.  But that is  just my two cents. 

As we are -- if you are comfortable. We have [Indiscernible ] . 

I  would do it if we had to.  But personally as my years of doing  this, you just told up  the score. And  you would total it. Or something. 
     But if you want to do what I will  do what. -- I will do it. I think if  you want, you  can express whatever with the attorney. If you want. 

I think we can move on  from that one.  

 Bread? --  Fred? 

Last year when we had  cold weather we were scrambling  around trying to put things together. And all of the ones that were connected  to you guys -- because last winter we had quite  a few cold days. And we talked,  and I talked to Donna, and they have done all of the  work but I just expressed that it  would be nice to be organized when  it was cold. But I want to compliment Donna  and Jim. We recently had a night  when we were way below. But things were good. And things  went well.  I want to take my hats off to them . I have to share a very  interesting moment. 
     We had cots delivered to  the church. And I called and  said we have some things going on  at the church. And counsel lady  Dennis refer to  -- and so here comes a Volusia truck  . And here came some guys. And I said,  hey guys. Did you guys have a good Thanksgiving?  Did you guys stay at home? And I asked them  if they  went away ? And they responded to me, yes  we had to stay where we were. And  anyway, I turned around and they  had, inmate written on their uniform. But anyway. But I do appreciate all of the  hard work.  But Donna I thought you would get  a kick at a hearing about that.  

But anyway, it is a  cool program, Mark . They were such nice  guys and they did laugh with me. But anyway, I was  not dressed as a pastor because  we were working. But anyway thank  you for putting all of this together . Especially since we  are having so much cold weather  this year. But anyway, thank you  guys. And second, I want to say  thank you to the counsel for the  proclamation. I have never had my  own day before. My family and the  church members were so appreciative  of you guys doing something for  me like that. I was very honored. I appreciate Pat Patterson.  Who stayed for the roast, which  was quite interesting. My youth  pastor is still employed but he  was amazing. But anyway, thank you  so much. Another thing that I want  to share, that you may or may not  know. This Saturday, before legislator -- Harriet Moore, over in the  Deltona area. There  is going to be a luncheon December  15. I would  like to see if we could sponsor  a table. It is $200. 
     If I could get permission, to do  that -- is everybody okay  with that? And I will be there  to present and so forth. And it  is so amazing what they are doing  over there. At the diversity lunch, I really  had planned to be there. But certain  church members had activities  for me -- and that is why  I missed the diversity event. 

Did they tell you about the [Indiscernible  ]?  >> There was a picture of  my house, and a big you all. [Laughter]  >> Mr. Patterson? 

I just want to let  you know, and I brought this up  today and earlier. There was something  on Facebook. It was a realtor, that was selling  or offering Museum  of arts -- 
     advertising 
     $3 million about $1 million under  the appraisal.  I know that Dan, -- 
     I really do hope up -- that they will sell it but I am  so concerned about wasting taxpayers  dollars.  >> If they did purchase it there  was a deed restriction on it. And it is going  to be a very interesting process. 

Thank you. >> Let me add one thing. In Donna's office  she is a person who is dedicated  -- because we have to  monitor them for 20 years. So she is making sure that the  purpose of that money, will continue into the future. And I just want to let you know  that is part of the process.  

This was not criticism.  But if somebody said something  to the councilmembers -- we have to be careful about the  Echo money. This was for information  purposes only.  >> If there are  deed restrictions that are handed  out -- we should be watching out  for that. And the gentleman that  spoke this morning, about  his record, and  he asked  a number of times to bring the records  then. He did not know if they  were ever in or not. But he knew  -- as  far as he knew they were brought  in. So I will ask  him to take the records to share  what would -- records to sheriff 
     Whittwood. 

Last Thursday night  we had a great event.  This is the first time the county  hosted a Volusia  meeting. It was a great event and we had  great food. It was great working together with the other 16 cities. It was a really  great turnout. I hundred  and 75 people turned out.  -- 175 people turned out . And we did pass  out booklets. We  did all --  these are the booklets that you  could carry. I had so many people thanking us  for those. There were only about  15 that were left. The rest  were taken.  And we will be giving those out  at the state County [Indiscernible  ] where people can use  the iPhone  app. And speaking about the state and county,  it is January  15 and we are  working hard to get that done. Betty thank you so much for being  involved last Thursday night. It  was a great event. You  made Volusia County proud. And  with that, it is  4;42  -- 4:42. 

Just to let  you know we are on Facebook.  >> Here we have the scumbag list. 
     And six of us were on that list.  

All my  -- oH MY. 

I  do not think we shed use that type  of language.  

But  I think there's CRC deserves what they get. 

Everyone I talk to, how in the  world did all of those issues but  one pass? No one believes that they  all pass? And they did. This is the charter and if they  violate it we will find out.  >> You do not need  to call him the scumbag sheriff .  

 Now it is 4:44 . >> [ 
     Event concluded ]